Re: Coronavirus Crisis Shows China’s Governance Failure - The New York Times
“People in China are now questioning that premise. They are focusing much of their anger on Xi Jinping, China’s top leader and the person many blame for creating a culture of fear and subservience within the Chinese government.”
I can’t help but feel that some in the Western media are overestimating the impact this is ultimately going to have on Xi and the CCP leadership…
Here’s what I would predict:
-The Party will continue to allow SELECT reporting and social media criticism, particularly that directed towards local officials…
-Once the dust settles, it will be local officials’ heads on the chopping block – because, after all, it’s not the system that’s at fault… It’s local officials who have failed to duly implement the central government’s policies…
-Xi and his ilk will then push for even further tightening of party control at the local level, NOT more transparency…
Agreed. It s going to be yet another one of those things that are supposed to kill chicom and dont. There is long list of that. 90 year long at least. Am pretty sure the conclusion wihtin China would be even tighter control. And the conclusion without? More handwringing and wishful thinking and hiding under the ideological comfort blanket. Why not? It s worked so well for the last 90 years. ;).
When will the West understand what chicom figured out a Long time ago: it s pointless to try to prove and hope how bad your opponents are. The real focus should be how to make oneself stronger and better. There are many core compettive issues that, if left unchecked, would be the the death of Western Democracy as we know it.
I think Europe is generally better at the relationship/competition reflection than the United States because Europe seems to be "closer" with China AND gets slapped around economically more by the US and China when it comes to China's issues, so Europe learned to shut up and just do the right thing for themselves.
America well let's not have high expectations here, first, it would downright impossible and just bad in general. This is equally as hard as expecting the CCP decided to have a two-party system. Generally, the US is still very "we are #1." With how technology has been able to monopolize power and trade I think the value proposition of being #1 is still very much true. If that is the case, the US should have its own talent program. PUMP SHIT AND SHIT LOAD OF MONEY into University and education systems. More liberal talent acquisition policies. That will give more leverage to the US down the road, but regardless of what happens this will push humanity as a whole forward and that is truly valuable no matter what the outcome is.
Take it easy. It s one way for a group of foreigners, who are probably bad at expressing themselves in english, to express their opinion on an issue on campus. Perfectly legit and in line with democratic ideals. Just because it s not to your taste, doesnt mean it s a problem.
Doesnt protesting against anything inherently implies that one wishes someone to stop doing or saying something?
Or are you saying that no one has the right to request anyone to stop doing or saying anything? Some people dont like what some other people are doing and are registering their wish by ligitimate and non-violent means.
You have deemed that ideologically impure and immoral somehow, because you disgree with their wishes. Noted.
Congrats! And it is exactly with such an ideological mindset that not only are the two countries are not getting along, but also the younger generations are less able to understand each other.
Your comment not only painted that these Chinese students are practicing "democracy with Chinese characteristics" but the school treats these student as cash flow only. GREAT!
So should we send all of them back and tell the school to change their admission guidelines to fix this?
I agree mostly with your comment, but I don't want to dive into a philosophical discussion.
What I like to point out is these students are in a Catch-22.
They are petitioning, which is like the most democratic thing you can do. If we bash them for signing a petition and say "a Right-Wing guy" was to speak at Berkeley and there is a petition to stop that guy from speaking, what is the difference? What would general US pop call that?
If these kids who signed the petition were to protest outside the talk how would we perceive that?
No matter what these kids do, they will get bashed on. That is the dynamic they are in.
Making an unthoughtful comment among people who are reading this newsletter is so bad... because there are people who can actually make a difference between US and China relationships here. (Or other countries and China).
Isn't it one of our goals to try to make China more open and have more democratic value. If it is, these kids are doing the right thing.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis Shows China’s Governance Failure - The New York Times
“People in China are now questioning that premise. They are focusing much of their anger on Xi Jinping, China’s top leader and the person many blame for creating a culture of fear and subservience within the Chinese government.”
I can’t help but feel that some in the Western media are overestimating the impact this is ultimately going to have on Xi and the CCP leadership…
Here’s what I would predict:
-The Party will continue to allow SELECT reporting and social media criticism, particularly that directed towards local officials…
-Once the dust settles, it will be local officials’ heads on the chopping block – because, after all, it’s not the system that’s at fault… It’s local officials who have failed to duly implement the central government’s policies…
-Xi and his ilk will then push for even further tightening of party control at the local level, NOT more transparency…
Agreed. It s going to be yet another one of those things that are supposed to kill chicom and dont. There is long list of that. 90 year long at least. Am pretty sure the conclusion wihtin China would be even tighter control. And the conclusion without? More handwringing and wishful thinking and hiding under the ideological comfort blanket. Why not? It s worked so well for the last 90 years. ;).
When will the West understand what chicom figured out a Long time ago: it s pointless to try to prove and hope how bad your opponents are. The real focus should be how to make oneself stronger and better. There are many core compettive issues that, if left unchecked, would be the the death of Western Democracy as we know it.
I think Europe is generally better at the relationship/competition reflection than the United States because Europe seems to be "closer" with China AND gets slapped around economically more by the US and China when it comes to China's issues, so Europe learned to shut up and just do the right thing for themselves.
America well let's not have high expectations here, first, it would downright impossible and just bad in general. This is equally as hard as expecting the CCP decided to have a two-party system. Generally, the US is still very "we are #1." With how technology has been able to monopolize power and trade I think the value proposition of being #1 is still very much true. If that is the case, the US should have its own talent program. PUMP SHIT AND SHIT LOAD OF MONEY into University and education systems. More liberal talent acquisition policies. That will give more leverage to the US down the road, but regardless of what happens this will push humanity as a whole forward and that is truly valuable no matter what the outcome is.
Ok, I swear... This is an auto like feature here or something...
Take it easy. It s one way for a group of foreigners, who are probably bad at expressing themselves in english, to express their opinion on an issue on campus. Perfectly legit and in line with democratic ideals. Just because it s not to your taste, doesnt mean it s a problem.
Doesnt protesting against anything inherently implies that one wishes someone to stop doing or saying something?
Or are you saying that no one has the right to request anyone to stop doing or saying anything? Some people dont like what some other people are doing and are registering their wish by ligitimate and non-violent means.
You have deemed that ideologically impure and immoral somehow, because you disgree with their wishes. Noted.
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Congrats! And it is exactly with such an ideological mindset that not only are the two countries are not getting along, but also the younger generations are less able to understand each other.
Your comment not only painted that these Chinese students are practicing "democracy with Chinese characteristics" but the school treats these student as cash flow only. GREAT!
So should we send all of them back and tell the school to change their admission guidelines to fix this?
But ideology is such a comfort blanket for the insecure, the scared, and the anxious, all of which sentiments are prominent in the Zeitgeist.
I agree mostly with your comment, but I don't want to dive into a philosophical discussion.
What I like to point out is these students are in a Catch-22.
They are petitioning, which is like the most democratic thing you can do. If we bash them for signing a petition and say "a Right-Wing guy" was to speak at Berkeley and there is a petition to stop that guy from speaking, what is the difference? What would general US pop call that?
If these kids who signed the petition were to protest outside the talk how would we perceive that?
No matter what these kids do, they will get bashed on. That is the dynamic they are in.
Making an unthoughtful comment among people who are reading this newsletter is so bad... because there are people who can actually make a difference between US and China relationships here. (Or other countries and China).
Isn't it one of our goals to try to make China more open and have more democratic value. If it is, these kids are doing the right thing.