This is a recording of my October 16, 2025 conversation with Ambassador Mike Froman
about recent developments in the US-China trade war and US-China relations in general. I learned a lot from this conversation and I think you will as well.Ambassador Froman is president of the
(CFR), and has had a distinguished career in the private sector and in public service, including as the head of USTR from June 2013 to January 2017.He now writes a weekly newsletter called The World This Week, to which I encourage everyone to subscribe.
We also discussed some of his recent writings, including:
After the Trade War: Remaking Rules From the Ruins of the Rules-Based System - Foreign Affairs
China Has Already Remade the International System - Foreign Affairs
China, the United States, and the AI Race | Council on Foreign Relations
Thanks to everyone who watched our chat live.
